Replacement speakers for Fender Twin

jimbones

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Montreal
Canada

Posted on Jan 31 2017 10:18 AM

Hey all - I have a Fender Twin '71 silverface with 2 stock Fender Oxfords 12s in it. I'm looking for recommendations for replacement speakers that have more mids and highs and much less lower end. Any suggestions?

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Gilette

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Montserrat

Posted on Jan 31 2017 01:21 PM

Maybe you'll like the Jensen C12N or it's alnico brother P12N. I like these because they're bright and edgy. Some samples here: https://www.jensentone.com/tone_chart

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Las_Barracudas

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Posted on Jan 31 2017 06:24 PM

Weber Ceramic California 12s (8 ohm, 80w, light dope).

Weber

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cambeezy

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Posted on Jan 31 2017 08:08 PM

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Posted on Jan 31 2017 11:20 PM

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abdul_tom

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United Kingdom

Posted on Feb 03 2017 01:24 PM

JBL E120

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tubeswell

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Wellington, NZ
Antarctica

Posted on Feb 07 2017 08:00 PM

For accentuated mids and upper frequencies, Weber Gray Wolf are great, and a great price. In an 80W 1971 twin reverb, you'd probably want a pair of 8R 75W ones, to match the 4R impedance of the OT. This would provide a good amount of power handling.

Or, for a bit more money, pair one of ^those^ above up with an Alnico Gray Wolf equivalent (also 8R 75W)

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JObeast

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Finknabad, Squinkistan
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Posted on Feb 20 2017 02:11 PM

Gilette wrote:

Maybe you'll like the Jensen C12N or it's alnico brother P12N. I like these because they're bright and edgy. Some samples here: https://www.jensentone.com/tone_chart

Isn't the N rated at 50w RMS? A speaker rated at 80 or 100w RMS such as the C12K or equivalent would afford better, tighter bass and less cone distortion.
I just got a 50w Eminence 121042 (similar to C12N) for a good price after much shopping, and its application is for a 14w RMS amp. I just don't want to push a speaker so hard. Better an underpowered driver (to a certain point) than one overdriven, unless you don't mind carry bass and crying comes, totally compressed distressed speaker sound. To my senses, not very surfy. Link Wray, yea.

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Gilette

Joined: May 04, 2014
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Montserrat

Posted on Feb 21 2017 01:37 AM

JObeast wrote:

Gilette wrote:

Maybe you'll like the Jensen C12N or it's alnico brother P12N. I like these because they're bright and edgy. Some samples here: https://www.jensentone.com/tone_chart

Isn't the N rated at 50w RMS? A speaker rated at 80 or 100w RMS such as the C12K or equivalent would afford better, tighter bass and less cone distortion.
I just got a 50w Eminence 121042 (similar to C12N) for a good price after much shopping, and its application is for a 14w RMS amp. I just don't want to push a speaker so hard. Better an underpowered driver (to a certain point) than one overdriven, unless you don't mind carry bass and crying comes, totally compressed distressed speaker sound. To my senses, not very surfy. Link Wray, yea.

Yes you're right, my mistake.

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jimbones

Joined: Nov 21, 2012
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Montreal
Canada

Posted on Feb 21 2017 08:31 AM

I get what you're all saying (and I don't know all that much about speakers), but why would Jensen list the replacement for the Oxfords with a C12N instead of the C12K?

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surfneptune

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Posted on Feb 21 2017 10:03 AM

I like the C12N, 60s preferred

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JObeast

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Posted on Feb 24 2017 01:53 PM

The N and not the K is the classic, but it's not rated for such a powerful amp. I sold my Twin's SICA C12Ks because they sounded so horrid. It wasn't a matter of break-in as they were in the amp when I bought it 12 years ago. I also sold a K I found in a sweet Traynor GuitarMate purchased in Canada. I put a WGS Green Beret in that amp and it came to life. The K sounded stiff, harsh and cold to my ear.
I'd guess Eminence and WGS are making better C12Ks now than Jensen/SICA.

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jimbones

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Posted on Mar 30 2017 02:59 PM

So, I ended up replacing them with Jensen C12Ns and it made a WORLD of difference! Now I've got much less low end, more mids and more highs. The tone is just great... it's exactly what I was looking for!

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Gilette

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Posted on Mar 31 2017 01:09 AM

jimbones wrote:

So, I ended up replacing them with Jensen C12Ns and it made a WORLD of difference! Now I've got much less low end, more mids and more highs. The tone is just great... it's exactly what I was looking for!

Told you. Enjoy!

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Pablomago

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Fort Collins, CO/Moonstone Beach, CA
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Posted on Apr 08 2017 10:04 PM

Eminence has come out with a speaker co-designed by pedal steel guitarist Paul Franklin. They can take a lot of power and stay clean. I don't know how the low end is. Pricey.

http://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=PF_350

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jimbones Joined: Nov 21, 2012 Posts: 151 Montreal	Posted on Jan 31 2017 10:18 AM Hey all - I have a Fender Twin '71 silverface with 2 stock Fender Oxfords 12s in it. I'm looking for recommendations for replacement speakers that have more mids and highs and much less lower end. Any suggestions? — The Men in Gray Suits (Montreal, Canada) Facebook: The Men in Gray Suits Instagram: The Men in Gray Suits Top
Gilette Joined: May 04, 2014 Posts: 734	Posted on Jan 31 2017 01:21 PM Maybe you'll like the Jensen C12N or it's alnico brother P12N. I like these because they're bright and edgy. Some samples here: https://www.jensentone.com/tone_chart Top
Las_Barracudas Joined: Apr 24, 2011 Posts: 1087 Surf City, NC	Posted on Jan 31 2017 06:24 PM Weber Ceramic California 12s (8 ohm, 80w, light dope). Weber — METEOR IV on reverbnation Top
cambeezy Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 398 Cleveland, Ohio	Posted on Jan 31 2017 08:08 PM Top
Tqi Joined: Dec 07, 2014 Posts: 1222	Posted on Jan 31 2017 11:20 PM - Last edited: Feb 02, 2024 12:44:21 Top
abdul_tom Joined: Dec 04, 2006 Posts: 251	Posted on Feb 03 2017 01:24 PM JBL E120 Top
tubeswell Joined: Sep 24, 2011 Posts: 1424 Wellington, NZ	Posted on Feb 07 2017 08:00 PM For accentuated mids and upper frequencies, Weber Gray Wolf are great, and a great price. In an 80W 1971 twin reverb, you'd probably want a pair of 8R 75W ones, to match the 4R impedance of the OT. This would provide a good amount of power handling. Or, for a bit more money, pair one of ^those^ above up with an Alnico Gray Wolf equivalent (also 8R 75W) — He who dies with the most tubes... wins Surf Daddies Last edited: Feb 07, 2017 20:03:18 Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Feb 20 2017 02:11 PM Gilette wrote: Maybe you'll like the Jensen C12N or it's alnico brother P12N. I like these because they're bright and edgy. Some samples here: https://www.jensentone.com/tone_chart Isn't the N rated at 50w RMS? A speaker rated at 80 or 100w RMS such as the C12K or equivalent would afford better, tighter bass and less cone distortion. I just got a 50w Eminence 121042 (similar to C12N) for a good price after much shopping, and its application is for a 14w RMS amp. I just don't want to push a speaker so hard. Better an underpowered driver (to a certain point) than one overdriven, unless you don't mind carry bass and crying comes, totally compressed distressed speaker sound. To my senses, not very surfy. Link Wray, yea. — Squink Out! Top
Gilette Joined: May 04, 2014 Posts: 734	Posted on Feb 21 2017 01:37 AM JObeast wrote: Gilette wrote: Maybe you'll like the Jensen C12N or it's alnico brother P12N. I like these because they're bright and edgy. Some samples here: https://www.jensentone.com/tone_chart Isn't the N rated at 50w RMS? A speaker rated at 80 or 100w RMS such as the C12K or equivalent would afford better, tighter bass and less cone distortion. I just got a 50w Eminence 121042 (similar to C12N) for a good price after much shopping, and its application is for a 14w RMS amp. I just don't want to push a speaker so hard. Better an underpowered driver (to a certain point) than one overdriven, unless you don't mind carry bass and crying comes, totally compressed distressed speaker sound. To my senses, not very surfy. Link Wray, yea. Yes you're right, my mistake. Top
jimbones Joined: Nov 21, 2012 Posts: 151 Montreal	Posted on Feb 21 2017 08:31 AM I get what you're all saying (and I don't know all that much about speakers), but why would Jensen list the replacement for the Oxfords with a C12N instead of the C12K? — The Men in Gray Suits (Montreal, Canada) Facebook: The Men in Gray Suits Instagram: The Men in Gray Suits Top
surfneptune Joined: Mar 16, 2006 Posts: 923	Posted on Feb 21 2017 10:03 AM I like the C12N, 60s preferred — THe NEpTuNeS Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Feb 24 2017 01:53 PM The N and not the K is the classic, but it's not rated for such a powerful amp. I sold my Twin's SICA C12Ks because they sounded so horrid. It wasn't a matter of break-in as they were in the amp when I bought it 12 years ago. I also sold a K I found in a sweet Traynor GuitarMate purchased in Canada. I put a WGS Green Beret in that amp and it came to life. The K sounded stiff, harsh and cold to my ear. I'd guess Eminence and WGS are making better C12Ks now than Jensen/SICA. — Squink Out! Top
jimbones Joined: Nov 21, 2012 Posts: 151 Montreal	Posted on Mar 30 2017 02:59 PM So, I ended up replacing them with Jensen C12Ns and it made a WORLD of difference! Now I've got much less low end, more mids and more highs. The tone is just great... it's exactly what I was looking for! — The Men in Gray Suits (Montreal, Canada) Facebook: The Men in Gray Suits Instagram: The Men in Gray Suits Last edited: Mar 30, 2017 14:59:43 Top
Gilette Joined: May 04, 2014 Posts: 734	Posted on Mar 31 2017 01:09 AM jimbones wrote: So, I ended up replacing them with Jensen C12Ns and it made a WORLD of difference! Now I've got much less low end, more mids and more highs. The tone is just great... it's exactly what I was looking for! Told you. Enjoy! Top
Pablomago Joined: Mar 23, 2017 Posts: 85 Fort Collins, CO/Moonstone Beach, CA	Posted on Apr 08 2017 10:04 PM Eminence has come out with a speaker co-designed by pedal steel guitarist Paul Franklin. They can take a lot of power and stay clean. I don't know how the low end is. Pricey. http://www.eminence.com/speakers/speaker-detail/?model=PF_350 — All opinions expressed by this poster are well thought out and based on actual experience and/or scientific experimentation, except for those which are knee-jerk reactions or good sounding fantasies. Top

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