JimBailey
Joined: Feb 02, 2007
Posts: 25
Southern California
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Posted on Feb 23 2007 06:54 PM
I have 2 Strats that I enjoy very much. I have been thinking very seriously of getting a Jaguar or Jagmaster with upgraded pickups. BUT... I have seen a Short Scale Japan Strat ( 24" ) ??? I am thinking it might have the best of both Worlds.. Strat pickups and electronics and or all the options available to upgrade ... And have the short scale neck for ease of play.
What are your thoughts. ????
I THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.
Jim
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Kawentzmann
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 1058
Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Feb 24 2007 05:13 AM
The opposite - a Jag with a Strat scale is awesome to my ears.
KK
— The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann
You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Feb 25 2007 08:44 PM
Anybody who saw the Pilgrims the last two nights want to change their vote?
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2774
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Feb 25 2007 09:46 PM
Just a quick response and please note that I haven't taken the time to read all the posts pro's and cons. IP said that Rich Fifield only used Jazzmasters, not so. Leo actually sent them an assortment of Fine Fender Instruments in "payment" for the RCA Album cover (ad) "Everythind is A-OK". As such they noodled around with all kinds of things. When they were performing in Atlanta, Rich played a Mustang as he liked the short scale. He was also fooling around with a Gibson 335. But ......I give in... These days Rich plays a Strat.
Jazzmasters are my life
ed
— Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?
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IvanP
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 10331
southern Michigan
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Posted on Feb 25 2007 09:57 PM
eddiekatcher
Just a quick response and please note that I haven't taken the time to read all the posts pro's and cons. IP said that Rich Fifield only used Jazzmasters, not so. Leo actually sent them an assortment of Fine Fender Instruments in "payment" for the RCA Album cover (ad) "Everythind is A-OK". As such they noodled around with all kinds of things. When they were performing in Atlanta, Rich played a Mustang as he liked the short scale. He was also fooling around with a Gibson 335. But ......I give in...
Eddie, I made my statement judging on the basis of every photo I had seen of the Astronauts from their surf era (who cares about their post-surf era? :twisted:). In every photo, whether studio, live, or promo, Rich is shown with a Jazzmaster. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you see them in Atlanta as they had mostly left their surf period behind? Circa '65 or '66? I'm sure by that point they would have been trying other guitars - but I think it's safe to say that during their classic era (Baja to Ride the Wild Surf), the sound of the Astronauts' lead guitar is the Jazzmaster.
These days Rich plays a Strat.
Good man!
Jazzmasters are my life
Wow... What would your wife say about that?
Ivan
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MikeyK
Joined: Feb 27, 2007
Posts: 18
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Posted on Mar 01 2007 07:19 AM
I found this site because of my love and flair for 'kooky guitars' (as my bandmates usually refer to them as). I'm quickly falling in love with surf music!
Here's one from my collection that I think makes a strong contender for a GREAT surf guitar. It's the Italia Modena, from Italia Guitars (http://www.italiaguitar.com) The tremelo on this Trev Wilkinson designed guitar kicks total heinie. And it's a total tone machine, very very versatile.
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I have two Italia guitars and love them (other one is a blue metalflake Maranello)
The Wilkinson hardware and pickups are first rate! I've since ordered Wilkies off of Da Bay and put them in several of my other geets.
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Noggles
Joined: Mar 03, 2007
Posts: 1
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Posted on Mar 03 2007 02:23 PM
I've just started listening to and recording surf. I've already had one of these, a Rickenbacker 650, and it turns out it works great for recording & playing surf. Not that I have any experience with it, but I think it sounds alright. Plus I just personally think it's the best looking guitar ever made.
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diceophonic
Joined: May 20, 2006
Posts: 2174
PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.)
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Posted on Mar 03 2007 03:35 PM
Noggles
I've just started listening to and recording surf. I've already had one of these, a Rickenbacker 650, and it turns out it works great for recording & playing surf. Not that I have any experience with it, but I think it sounds alright. Plus I just personally think it's the best looking guitar ever made.
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Rickenbackers are great I dig the lennon models and the McCartney 4001 bass.
— -Kyle
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boyecho
Joined: Mar 05, 2006
Posts: 251
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Posted on Mar 09 2007 10:59 AM
i've got a tex-mex strat and two mosrites. strat always gets played for surf. the 25.5 scale is just so much more snappy/edgy than the mosrites.
i love the looks and sound of jags, but that 24" scale just doesn't have that response.
i'd like a jazzmaster, but i've never been crazy about the pickups. i'd really like to make a jag/jazzmaster hybrid. but i dont have the cash or time to get involved.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Mar 09 2007 05:37 PM
Get heavier strings on your Mosrites and Jag if you want it to play more like a Strat.
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SurfBandBill
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Posts: 1487
San Francisco
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Posted on Mar 10 2007 02:33 PM
boyecho
i've got a tex-mex strat and two mosrites. strat always gets played for surf. the 25.5 scale is just so much more snappy/edgy than the mosrites.
Do you really think there's that much difference in the 25.5 of a Strat and a 24.75 scale on a Mosrite? I could never tell the difference of the feel, myself. I always thought it was the perfect go-between of the 24 inch of a jag and the 25.5 of a Strat or JM
~B~
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Flowmaster_G
Joined: Nov 09, 2006
Posts: 140
Los Angeles, California
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Posted on Mar 13 2007 07:43 PM
SurfBandBill
boyecho
i've got a tex-mex strat and two mosrites. strat always gets played for surf. the 25.5 scale is just so much more snappy/edgy than the mosrites.
Do you really think there's that much difference in the 25.5 of a Strat and a 24.75 scale on a Mosrite? I could never tell the difference of the feel, myself. I always thought it was the perfect go-between of the 24 inch of a jag and the 25.5 of a Strat or JM
~B~
Beware of the scale-nazis. No scales for you!
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kenposurf
Joined: Feb 23, 2007
Posts: 1650
Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted on Mar 13 2007 09:43 PM
It's all good! I would agree that the Strat is King. A favorite I play often is a JM body with a strat vibrato ..bridge/neck are P-90's with a Strat pup in the center position..a pair of toggles make all combo's possible.
— www.northofmalibu.com
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2774
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Mar 13 2007 11:11 PM
My wife has put up with my music madness since 1964. As a matter of fact, our first date was to my first band gig. Later as we were loading luggage into our Mustang after our wedding, heading off to our Honeymoon in 1968. Carol noticed my Les Paul in the trunk and asked me what I planned to do with "that". I told her that I planned to play it. I did then and I have for the last 39 years. Like I said, a day rarely passes that I haven't noodled around on at least one of my guitars.
Oh yeah, The Astronauts played NO surf at any of their Atlanta shows.
— Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?
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surfraptor
Joined: Dec 27, 2006
Posts: 336
near Amsterdam
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Posted on Mar 17 2007 04:36 PM
That could be the synopsis of a cool little movie eddiekatcher!
Well it was in my head when I read your post...!
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Surfgitar
Joined: Mar 16, 2007
Posts: 1342
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted on Apr 08 2007 06:28 PM
I saw The Dillengers live and guitarist Rick Rossano had about 5 different guitars on stage. He alternated between guitars depending on the song and the sound he wanted.
I own a bunch of guitars but play a Strat in the band for the "one guitar fits all" thang. But I'd love to reach a point where I use multiple guitars onstage. (Maybe when we get roadies... )
— CUTBACK
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Occam
Joined: Mar 11, 2007
Posts: 61
Alameda Ca
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Posted on Apr 30 2007 06:02 PM
My main and currently only surf guitar is a Fender Cyclone II. The 24" Jaguar/Mustang scale length is just too short for my meat-hooks. I mainly play Gibsons so the 24.75" feels more natural. I also really like the mix of the Jaguar pickups and the Strat. bridge....it really sounds and plays sweet and so far all I've changed are the saddles to graph tech's, put on some D'Addario half-round 12's, loaded it up with 5 springs and it really just sounds great and stays in tune really well once I filed the nut. I want another surf guitar but something interesting and different from the Cyclone, maybe a DiPinto.
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Anonymous
Joined: Nov 10, 2000
Posts: -180
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Posted on May 24 2007 08:47 AM
The Mosrite is and will always be my favorite. I have been collecting them for a very long time, but recently discovered that there may be some frauds out there in circulation. Long story short- I saw the Bomboras last new years eve and Lord Hunts back up guitar was a red Mosrite. Upon closer inspection, I saw that there was a Ghastly ones logo on the headstock in the vein of the "Ventures Model". After the show I asked Lord Hunt where he aquired the guitar but he was unwilling to offer up that info. This sparked my interest to say the least, and after some serious research I came to discover that the guitar player of the ghastly ones has been making high quality knockoffs for years, right down to the "Ventures model" logo on the headstock. This upsets me a little because now I have to go through them and find out if my collection is compromised.
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JPL
Joined: Sep 14, 2006
Posts: 22
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Posted on May 30 2007 07:40 AM
My favorite guitar is my only guitar --- a lefty Los Straitjackets DiPinto Galaxie IV. I call him Mr. Sparkle.
I'm thinking about having Subway Guitars build me some sort of quasi-Danelectro baritone guitar, to be called Hellboy.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on May 30 2007 09:34 AM
Surfgitar
I saw The Dillengers live and guitarist Rick Rossano had about 5 different guitars on stage. He alternated between guitars depending on the song and the sound he wanted.
I own a bunch of guitars but play a Strat in the band for the "one guitar fits all" thang. But I'd love to reach a point where I use multiple guitars onstage. (Maybe when we get roadies... )
The problem with that is that there is too much dead time when switching guitars. I'm sure everyone's been in an audience or on stage when it takes too much time between songs. It's happened to us and it pisses me off.
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