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Permalink Classic Surf Top 101 - 2013 edition (old thread)

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Pete Matich
Wellington NZ

(I wanted these in no particular order, but here they are - ordered)

  1. Fender IV - Margaya
  2. Harem Bells - Newport Nomads
  3. Surfaris - Wipeout
  4. Eddie and the Showmen - Squad Car
  5. Ventures - Journey to the Stars
  6. Belairs - Mr Moto
  7. Lively Ones - Surf Rider
  8. Misirlou - Dick Dale
  9. Surf Party - Astronauts
    10.Intoxica - Centurions

He who dies with the most tubes... wins

Surf Daddies

Last edited: Nov 19, 2013 11:50:53

mom_surfing wrote:

looking at my list i'm thinking i'm wrong on the era of the clee shays. i can't find when the tune 'beyond' was written by spickard/carman but the CD i have is a 1998 release.

The Clee-Shays were an alternate presentation of The Challengers, both directed by Richard Delvy after he left the Bel-Airs. Their recording career ended by 1970 (except for one CD with a different incarnation of the Challengers made by Delvy in 1995). So all Clee-Shays recordings qualify as Classic Surf, and they first appeared in vinyl.

Perhaps one of my two most collectable vinyl LPs is by The Clee-Shays. I have several in unopened cellophane that I bought in the 1960s. Likewise I have at least one LP by "Mel Taylor and The Magics" still unopened.

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Last edited: Nov 16, 2013 22:27:17

Lots of well known & obvious choices already covered, so aside from my #1, made a go of bagging' some vote counts on deserving cuts that are probably outside of the total vote top ten (and definitely above #102!) Uh-Oh Big Grin

  1. Latin'ia - The Sentinals
  2. Latin Soul - The Sentinals
  3. Third Star to the Left - The Nocturnes
  4. Telstar - The Challengers
  5. The Cossack - Jim Messina & His Jesters
  6. The Wedge - Johnny Barakat & The Vestells
  7. Stampede - The Scarlets
  8. High Wall - The Debonairs
  9. The Breeze & I - The Vibrants
  10. Soul Surfer - Johnny Fortune

Fady

El Mirage @ ReverbNation

Here's my list - man this is so hard!! I could probably do a pretty solid top 100, but I can definitely say that this list contains songs that I just never get sick of.

Margaya - Fender IV
Bahareeba - The Trademarks
Time Bomb - The Avengers VI
Unknown - The Vy-Dels
High Tide - The Lively Ones
The Enchanted Sea - The Islanders
The Wedge - Dick Dale
Bombora - The Original Surfaris
Bombora - The Atlantics
The Spotnicks Theme - The Spotnicks

Sean
Double Crown Records
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Surf CD's / Vinyl / Fanzines / DVD's
Aloha Screwdriver - Lunar Wobble CD
The Nebulas - Euphorion LP / CD
Supertubos - The Fourth Drive CD
Continental Magazine - Issue #37 w/17 Song CD

Last edited: Nov 19, 2013 18:14:47

This is way too hard. Been working on this for a couple weeks.
1. Wipe Out-The Surfaris (had to do it!)
2. Malagueña- the Trashmen
3. Movin-The Astronauts
4. Tranquilizer (High Tide)-The Lively Ones
5. Inertia!-The Hustlers
6. Scatter Shield-The Surfaris
7. Border Town-Eddie and the Showmen
8. Surf Beat-Dick Dale (so hard to choose one by Dick, but the saxes and the simplicity of this one did it for me)
9. Latinia-The Sentinals
10. Banzai Washout-The Catalinas

My others:
Heartbeat- Avengers VI
Bombora-the Atlantics
Pintor-the Pharos
Chiflado-the Challengers
Yang Bu-Jim Messina & The Jesters
Casbah- Sandy Nelson
Oceanside-The Super Stocks
Exotic-The Original Surfaris

I can't stop!!!

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Ran
USA
1. Fender IV - Mar Gaya
2. The Avengers VI - Time Bomb
3. The Atlantics - Bombora
4. Fender IV - Everybody Up!
5. The New Dimensions - Cat on a Hot Foam Board
6. Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - The Victor
7. The Original Surfaris - Bombora
8. The Lively Ones - High Tide/Tranquilizer
9. The Phantoms - X-L3
10. The Creations - Crash

Much harder than I thought, I had to just take out:
Dave & The Customs – Ali Baba
And there are a few others I would have included.

The Scimitars

Here's 12, I couldn't remove 2 ......

  1. The Sentinals -Latinia
  2. The Viscounts - Harlem Noctourne
  3. Dick Dale - Miserlou
  4. Eddie and the Showmen - Squad Car
  5. The Belairs - Mr. Moto
  6. Johnny Fortune - Soul Surfer
  7. The Lively Ones - Paradise Cove
  8. The Lively Ones - Surfer's Lament
  9. Eddie and the Showmen - Scratch
  10. The Lively Ones - Surf Rider
  11. The Fire Balls - Rik a Tik
  12. The Astronauts - Surf Party

Last edited: Nov 17, 2013 23:13:42

For the final tallying, how are the counts going to be dealt with for people who didn't number/rank/prioritize and for those who put more than ten songs in?

There are two important rules that I keep in mind:
1) I am asking people to submit 10 favourite tracks, not more.
2) The order of the tracks does matter, your number 1 will receive the most points in the Top 101, your number 10 will receive the least points.

If somebody comes up with a list of more than 10 tracks I simply do not assign any points to the bottom tracks of that list (regardless of the order). A Top 10 is a Top 10. Totally fine with me if people want to display a Top 11, Top 15 or even a Top 50 up here but the Top 10 tracks are the only ones gaining any points.

As for as the order, if people come up with a list on alphabetical order or if they specifically mention the list is in no particular order I give all 10 tracks equal points. I do however strongly like to discourage this since it will make the actual Top 101 far less distinctive. Please take some more time and decide on the order of your tracks. If you had to make a choice to bring only one track to that remote tropical island? Which track would that be? And what if you could bring a second one? etc. etc. Should be possible for everybody.

If people have a list that is not numbered, not on alphabetical order and they do not mention there is no particular order I assume the top entry is #1 and the bottom entry # 10 of their list.

All entries so far have been accounted for and I will not be making any changes to those entries since I made the rules perfectly clear at the start of this thread.

For future entries I would like to kindly like to ask everybody to come up with a NUMBERED TOP 10 IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE! If you want to show the people on the forum more than 10 tracks, absolutely no problem to include more track at the bottom, as long a you realize it is the Top 10 that will receive all the points.

Niels Jansen
Program Director
North Sea Surf Radio

To submit your surf music to North Sea Surf Radio send the tracks as .mp3 in 320kbps bitrate with correct tags to playlist@northseasurfradio.com via Dropbox.

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One last thing about not having a particular order in your list. The total ammount of points to divide is the same as with a Top 10 with a particular order. In a list with no particular order all tracks get the same ammount of points whereas with a Top 10 the number 1 gets a substantially higher amount of points as the number 10.

If you have 10 tracks that very little people support in no particular order it will result in none of your tracks entering the Top 101 whereas with a Top 10 in a particular order your number 1 is likely to end up in the Top 101 a lot sooner.

So please, for future entries:
SUBMIT A NUMBERED TOP 10 IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE!

Niels Jansen
Program Director
North Sea Surf Radio

To submit your surf music to North Sea Surf Radio send the tracks as .mp3 in 320kbps bitrate with correct tags to playlist@northseasurfradio.com via Dropbox.

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The Phantom Four: Website - Facebook - Twitter

Last edited: Nov 18, 2013 04:38:08

Good to know, thanks for posting those Neils

Jeff(bigtikidude)

kick_the_reverb wrote:

Ran
USA
1. Fender IV - Mar Gaya
2. The Avengers VI - Time Bomb
3. The Atlantics - Bombora
4. Fender IV - Everybody Up!
5. The New Dimensions - Cat on a Hot Foam Board
6. Dick Dale & His Del-Tones - The Victor
7. The Original Surfaris - Bombora
8. The Lively Ones - High Tide/Tranquilizer
9. The Phantoms - X-L3
10. The Creations - Crash

Much harder than I thought, I had to just take out:
Dave & The Customs – Ali Baba
And there are a few others I would have included.

I've been thinking about my list for awhile
Now, and I don't wanna just do a pipeline, wipeout,
Penetration, Misirlou list.
I could easily just copy Ran's list and be done with it.
But I'll get back to thinking of my own.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

  1. Dick Dale - Miserlou
  2. Link Wray - Jack The Ripper
  3. The Trashmen - Malaguena
  4. The Ventures - Out of Limits
  5. Sandy Nelson - Casbah
  6. Yuzo Kayama - Black Sand Beach
  7. The Ventures - I Like It Like That
  8. The Sentinals - Latin’la
  9. Eddie & The Showmen - Squad car
    10.The Pyramids - Penetration

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Last edited: Nov 18, 2013 15:38:52

Here's mine. Really hard so I just stop thinking too long.
1. BANZAI PIPELINE - The Astronauts
2. GEMINI 4 - The What Four
3. HAREM BELLS - The Newport Nomads
4. FAILSAFE - The New Dimensions
5. PRESSURE - The Pyramids
6. BULLWINKLE - The Centurians
7. THE HEARSE - Al CAsey
8. CRUEL SEA - Les Champions
9. MONSOON - The Chantays
10. THE WARLORD - The Shadows

BTD, I think your comment warrants a response, as it could potentially be interpreted as derogatory and/or condescending towards the songs you cited, all of which are overwhelmingly respected and revered, as proven by the voters participating in this list.

The purpose of this list isn't about coming up with the most obscure, rare, or seldom heard songs, it's about "your all-time favorite Surf Instrumental tracks." The difficult part for some might be digging deep inside and removing all of the years of influence that may have clouded one's interest in said songs. Have we all heard those songs more than any others in the repertoire? Of course. Does that mean that they don't deserve to be favorites on the list? Certainly not, as has been clearly proven by the voters.

Sure, we've all seen the eyes roll from the disillusioned and jaded Surf concert-goers when "Pipeline," "Wipeout," "Misirou," or "Penetration" is played, but one has to keep perspective when considering the songs in the context of a list like this. To say a list might contain "just" those songs, as in--those songs are lesser or some kind of compromised choice--is disrespectful to those songs and those that included them. When was the last time that you tried to strip away all outside influence, sit down and listen to those songs intently and actively and appreciate them for what they are? Just because they're played more often and better known, doesn't mean that it's any kind of cop out to include them in a list of favorites.

Insect Surfers
The Tikiyaki Orchestra
The Scimitars
Lords Of Atlantis
Fiberglass Jungle - Surf Radio

Like I have mentioned before in this thread: I feel with the Top 101 we are not necessarily seeking the historically most important tracks, neither are we necessarily looking for the obscure stuff. We are looking for the most popular tracks today! I think everybody should include their personal favorites of what they call surf, disregarding any outside information regarding popularity, obscurity, importance, milestoneness or whatever.

In our opinion The Surf Top 101 should be a reflection of what the 101 most popular tracks are among lovers of surf music and what they experience as surf music. We have been having an interesting debate at North Sea Surf Radio whether to include tracks not considered surf music by the official rules and standards (West Coast early 60´s etc.). What to do with tracks by The Ventures, Link Wray, The Shadows, The Spotnicks and Yuzo Kayama? We have been asking ourselves that question and had an interesting debate about it.

Is it our role to omit "non surf" tracks and educate? We feel it is not and in the end we at NSSR all agree that it are the votes of the surf music lovers that count. The Classic Surf Top 101 will be a reflection of the most popular tracks today that people consider surf, regardless of its roots, influences, the line up, the gear or the effects.

If you´d play some records that are strictly surf to a person interested in surf music but not necessarily a specialist and you would mix that with Euro Instro, Eleki and Rautalanka it is very probable they would all consider it surf music.

And what if we would be applying strict purist surf rules to the Revival Top 101? We would have to skip the majority of material by The Bambi Molesters, Laika and the Cosmonauts, Messer Chups, Man or Astro-Astroman?, Daikaiju, The Mermen, The Phantom Four,Hawaii Samurai... and the list goes on. So no, we are not going to do that.

Let the people decide what the best instrumenal surf music is and if enough people feel a track is surf worthy and vote for it we will add it to the Top 101. Unless it is a vocal track or it very clearly belongs to a totally different genre like punk, bossa nova, drum & bass or cajun.

At least these lists bring about some interesting discussions and make everybody revisit their favorites and rethink their personal definition of surf. That alone has made doing this list worthwhile already.

Keep those lists coming!

Cowabunga!
(a term which by the way has a slightly questionable background http://youtu.be/qXEvPM8uQA4 ... but that´s going off topic)

Niels Jansen
Program Director
North Sea Surf Radio

To submit your surf music to North Sea Surf Radio send the tracks as .mp3 in 320kbps bitrate with correct tags to playlist@northseasurfradio.com via Dropbox.

North Sea Surf Radio: Website- Facebook - Twitter
North Sea Surf Festival: Website - Facebook - Twitter
The Phantom Four: Website - Facebook - Twitter

Last edited: Nov 18, 2013 12:31:32

p.s. sure, when I first heard "Misirlou" by Dick Dale it made all my hairs stand up straight and made me want to break speed limits on the highway. But playing hundreds of shows with The Phantom Four experiencing hundreds of unexperienced DJ´s that all felt with a surf band in the house they should play "Misirlou" that feeling barely occurs anymore. I simply heard it too often.

"Exotic" by The Original Surfaris now does that for me and that´s why that track is my number 2 and "Misirlou" is not even in my list (anymore). And a year from now that could very well have changed. That is what will make this list interesting for the years to come. Which tracks have gained popularity and which tracks are fading?

If we would want to compile the ultimate historical 101 classics in surf music we should let some historians and music journalists make a Classic Top 101 and we can write that in stone and will never have to look back again. It would be a one off. By letting people´s current taste do the work the list will remain organic and interesting.

Niels Jansen
Program Director
North Sea Surf Radio

To submit your surf music to North Sea Surf Radio send the tracks as .mp3 in 320kbps bitrate with correct tags to playlist@northseasurfradio.com via Dropbox.

North Sea Surf Radio: Website- Facebook - Twitter
North Sea Surf Festival: Website - Facebook - Twitter
The Phantom Four: Website - Facebook - Twitter

Last edited: Nov 20, 2013 06:09:11

I understand and appreciate what you 2 are saying.
and what this list is.
But,
Does Classic 101 mean..
What is the most popular surf music songs?
Because most popular isn't always the best examples.
Do I like hearing pipeline on a real radio station?
Of course! I'll pull over and listen with my eyes closed.
But that doesn't make it one of my favorites? No.
It means that it was so popular back then that
They will still play it on certain radio shows now.
And I can appreciate that.

But in saying that, there are many songs in popular music history,
That I would consider not wanting to ever hear.

In a context of a rock band I like a lot(AC/DC)
What is their most popular song?
"You shook me all night long"
To me, this is my least favorite song of theirs.

Basically what I'm getting at is.
Is this a
what is the most popular surf song to the general public?
What are the best surf songs? Or
What are my favorites surf songs?

Jeff(bigtikidude)

Last edited: Nov 18, 2013 15:02:54

Does Classic 101 mean..
What is the most popular surf music songs?
Because most popular isn't always the best examples.

As I said in my post, I´m not looking for the best examples. We can let historians and journalists argue over that. It´s about what the most popular surf music songs are to the surf music lovers taking the time to vote.

Is this a
1) What is the most popular surf song to the general public?

Well, let´s say to the general surf public.

2) What are the best surf songs? or

No we are not looking for that.
Who decides what is best? History? Journalists? Sales?
We are looking for the most popular songs (songs favoured by the biggest amount of people).

3) What are my favorites surf songs?

YES, that´s what this is about. What are YOUR favourite surf tracks. And in the end if we have enough votes that tells us 1) see above

Niels Jansen
Program Director
North Sea Surf Radio

To submit your surf music to North Sea Surf Radio send the tracks as .mp3 in 320kbps bitrate with correct tags to playlist@northseasurfradio.com via Dropbox.

North Sea Surf Radio: Website- Facebook - Twitter
North Sea Surf Festival: Website - Facebook - Twitter
The Phantom Four: Website - Facebook - Twitter

Ohh...can I include Link Wray!??! I also forgot 'Black Sand Beach' by Yuzo Kayama. Cool.

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Last edited: Nov 18, 2013 15:39:27

You wouldn´t be the first Lars, but then again, your list has been processed already. Darn, has to be next year then Smile

Niels Jansen
Program Director
North Sea Surf Radio

To submit your surf music to North Sea Surf Radio send the tracks as .mp3 in 320kbps bitrate with correct tags to playlist@northseasurfradio.com via Dropbox.

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