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FYI: one of our own - KJC, is offering discounted prices on flatwounds to us SG101'ers. His store is:

http://www.ballewsmusic.net/intro.cfm

Danny Snyder
aka Mycroft Eloi of The TomorrowMen
aka Shecky Shekels of Meshugga Beach Party
aka Zync Oxyde of Frankie and the Poolboys

yeah Danny, he is offering a very competitve string deal, I won't disclose the price, but i don't think it can be beat.

D'adarrio chromes flatwound 15-65 (I get a 7 string package and discard the 11 gauge) on an AV Jazzmaster.
I buy them through Musician's Friend as they are the cheapest there.

Ran

IvanP
Rotosound Purples 12-52 (nickel roundwounds) - incredible strings!

On Ivans advice, I ordered these from juststrings.com & put them on my cheap Squire Strat. Just to be able to tune the guitar I had to add 2 springs for a total of 5 to the tremelo. It made the whammy bar really stiff but it completely changed the sound of the guitar for the better.

My Jazzmaster has Fender stainless flatwounds .11 - .50. It sounds so fantastic Im afraid to change anything right now.

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  • Fender Jaguar: Pyramid Gold, flatwound .013

  • Epiphone ES-295: Gibson, flatwound .012

  • Fender Jazzmaster: Pyramid Gold, flatwound .011

  • Mosrite Excellent 65: Pyramid, roundwound .010

  • Burns Double Six: Pyramid Gold 12-string, flatwound .010From the 12-string set product description:

_Our strings produce the same sound as the most loved 12 string sounds made by British and American pop groups of the 60's. They are the same type of strings that made the music in the first place! Roger McGuinn, founder of "The Byrds" - favours, uses and loves the Pyramid Gold pure nickel flat wound .010-.0465 12-string set!

Says Mr. McGuinn about Pyramid strings:

"Pyramid Gold flat wound strings bring back the sound that made me fall in love with the electric 12-string guitar. And they last much longer too!" - Roger_

www.thesurfites.com

Last edited: Sep 01, 2006 13:15:42

Klas, do you get 'em at Thomann? the pyramid roundwounds, are thse the super cheapo's?

WR

Rules to live by #314:
"When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is."

http://www.myspace.com/monotonessurfmusic

I get the Pyramids at Saitenkatalog.de. The roundwounds are really inexpensive at 4,10 € but the flatwounds costs quite a bit more at 12,05 € (the 12-string set is 19,60 €).

www.thesurfites.com

that's about what they cost at thomann.de - usually thomann pops up as cheapest on kelkoo tho, and they have a flat shipping rate of 8 euros regardless of wheter you order a single string, or a marshall 4x12 ...

WR

Rules to live by #314:
"When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is."

http://www.myspace.com/monotonessurfmusic

Question Can you put smaller guage strings once you file a nut for thicker strings? I'm sure I wouldn't want to, but whatever the case... Also is it hard to do yourself or how much does a shop generally charge?

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hmmmm.....
i play 9-46 on my strat with low action of 2-3 mm and 13-56 on my slideguitars with an action of 5 mm. thats a fifts of an inch i guess.
do suerfat strings actually sound so much better for surfstuff? i am not shure, because i can get all sorts of twang out of my whimpy-strings and they are so hard on my fingerjoints. i am 47 years old and i teach a lot of guitar, so my hands need all the help they can get. specially the first joint on my left indexfinger. i even have 10-47 on my acoustic, because i have to play cowboy-chords for hours.
i would like to present the idea here, that a pretty high action can do a lot for your sound too.
eddie

www.myspace.com/captaintwangandhisrhythmcat

eddiewagner
hmmmm.....
i play 9-46 on my strat with low action of 2-3 mm

??

[url]http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/action.htm[/url]
For most players a string height (also known in guitar slang as action) of 3/64" of an inch is considered normal. Some players choose a higher sting height such as 4/64" of an inch while players which tend to have a light touch and want the fastest action possible strive to lower the action as close as possible to 2/64" [i.e. 0.8 mm, WRwhich in many case's is very hard to setup and maintain without fret buzzing somewhere on the finger board (for the lowest possible action or to avoid fret buzz all across your finger board it may be necessary to have your frets leveled and crowned first).

seems to me 2-3 mm is pretty high already. I have my jag at about 2 mm and it's the heighest I ever had on a guitar.

I used to have a Les Paul with leveled frets that was set up at below 1 mm action, no buzz at all. great guitar. It made me play all kind of ridiculous pseudo shredding licks, which totally didn't fit with the band I was in. I still regret I wasn't more concious about such things back then. I read somewhere Lou Reed occasionally strings with too heavy for him strings to get the sound of the "clumsy" Velvet Underground style bends.

eddiewagner also
I would like to present the idea here, that a pretty high action can do a lot for your sound too.

I agree. I think IvanP mentioned the same thing recently, how his strat sounded better with higher action. I think it aslo varies from guitar to guitar. I like the sound of strats and tele's with thinner strings, on jags it's horrible.

mho of course.

WR

Rules to live by #314:
"When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is."

http://www.myspace.com/monotonessurfmusic

i changed my mind again. now its 11-49. on the strat for my surfband. i think thats still easy enough on my old fingers and i do not bend them too much for the surfstuff. singlenotes sound a lot better than with a 9-42 set and they respond better to machine-gun stuff. still with a high action. so far so good.
eddie

www.myspace.com/captaintwangandhisrhythmcat

eddiewagner
i changed my mind again. now its 11-49. on the strat for my surfband. i think thats still easy enough on my old fingers and i do not bend them too much for the surfstuff. singlenotes sound a lot better than with a 9-42 set and they respond better to machine-gun stuff. still with a high action. so far so good.
eddie

flatwound roundwound is the question.

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Klas
image * Fender Jaguar: Pyramid Gold, flatwound .013

  • Epiphone ES-295: Gibson, flatwound .012

  • Fender Jazzmaster: Pyramid Gold, flatwound .011

  • Mosrite Excellent 65: Pyramid, roundwound .010

  • Burns Double Six: Pyramid Gold 12-string, flatwound .010From the 12-string set product description:

_Our strings produce the same sound as the most loved 12 string sounds made by British and American pop groups of the 60's. They are the same type of strings that made the music in the first place! Roger McGuinn, founder of "The Byrds" - favours, uses and loves the Pyramid Gold pure nickel flat wound .010-.0465 12-string set!

Says Mr. McGuinn about Pyramid strings:

"Pyramid Gold flat wound strings bring back the sound that made me fall in love with the electric 12-string guitar. And they last much longer too!" - Roger_

I used to wear the wound G string out on the Pyramid Golds too quickly. They sound good, but are way too expensive for me to be changing every 2 months. I've gone with Thomastiks the past year and a half now and still have the same set on one of my Jaguars from over a year ago. Like the Pyramids they are nickel opposed to stainless steel.

"as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there"

reluctant aquanauts

Same set for a year. I like to hear that Bill. I hate changing my flatwounds.

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Oh yeahaaayeaha Guitar for all my Jaguars

www.theverbtones.iwarp.com
www.facebook.com/pages/The-Verbtones/64436944255

I just put some ghs boomer 11's on my SG and wow!
Ive always played 10's and tried 11's once before but they tended to rip my calluses off but that was when I played a lot of wanking solo's. These 11's give me more control, makes it harder to inadvertanly bend strings which means I play cleaner now, and of course they sound way beefier. I also bought some D'adario 12's that i'm gonna put on in a few weeks after my fingers get used to these 11's. The only question now is: How low will I go?

Iron maiden, you'll find the flats are silky smooth and will burnish your calluses to a satiny finish. Seriously, I played a 4.5 hour marathon early this year without stopping and with the flats the skin on my fingers were fine. As for the thickness, as long as you're not trying to bend notes above a 1/2 step you won't find much trouble bumping up. I went from .10s right to .13s and once I got accustomed to how thick they felt I had no problems, minutes not days really.

Danny Snyder
aka Mycroft Eloi of The TomorrowMen
aka Shecky Shekels of Meshugga Beach Party
aka Zync Oxyde of Frankie and the Poolboys

JakeDobner
Same set for a year. I like to hear that Bill. I hate changing my flatwounds.

I think they get better age. Maybe on my Telecaster a new set of strings sounds refreshing, but the Jaguar with thuddy old strings, well they just seems to go hand in hand with each other. Laughing

"as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there"

reluctant aquanauts

DannySnyder
Iron maiden, you'll find the flats are silky smooth and will burnish your calluses to a satiny finish.

I was gonna try some flatwounds but when the guy rung me up the total was over 10 bucks, so I was like screw that just give me 2 sets of rounds for less than 10.

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