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Hall & Collins Signature Echo
Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up. 
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Posted on May 21 2015 03:56 PM
Check this out! I think this is probably the easiest way ever to nail all the various versions of Hank Marvin's echoes. It's by the guy who developed the patches Hank's been using. —This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. |
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Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on May 21 2015 04:27 PM
This picture kinda says it all. How easy is this to get the exactly right echo?
This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. |
Joined: Apr 05, 2015 Posts: 32
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Posted on May 21 2015 08:16 PM
Pricey... Incredibly specialized... I guess it's one way to go... Or spend less than half on a brand new Zoom G3/5 and this: https://www.hallsecho.com/home.html And still have a fully capable multi-effects unit... To each his own... |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin
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Posted on May 21 2015 08:43 PM
Some input crunching needed but the patch list has been out (free) for the Zoom 508 as well, should a person find one at (from what I've seen) ~$180-200. How much is Charlie's G3/5 package? —Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. |
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Joined: Apr 05, 2015 Posts: 32
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Posted on May 21 2015 09:33 PM
Used G3 +/- $100 Used G5 +/- $200 Hall's Echoes 80 British Pounds = 125.39 US Dollar |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin
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Posted on May 21 2015 10:00 PM
Thanks for the breakdown. I'm not saying they shouldn't get paid for what really amounts to decades of continuous work & apparently plenty are happy to oblige. Thanks Noel for the heads-up. Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. |
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Posted on May 21 2015 10:07 PM
According to the site, Hall's Echoes are licensed by/from EFTP which was the original Charlie Hall product, so it's not some sort of software bootleg (of which there are plenty out there, including burned EPROM chips). They also address the Hall/Collins unit, as well as other competitors/alternatives. https://www.hallsecho.com/comparative-value.html I have no preference or personal interest - Just putting the info out there. |
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Posted on May 22 2015 08:13 AM
This could be the one and only echo machine for all would be Hank B Marvins out there, if you're willing to pay the price. |
Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg 
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Posted on May 23 2015 02:35 AM
The gas is strong with this one... — |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin
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Posted on May 23 2015 06:44 AM
SanchoPansen wrote:
Me too, for about a 1/2 minute but I'm saving for a Jag, and merch mad-money for a concert in August, etc. One thing I did, just as an experiment, was take my delay pedal (EchoPark clone) and benchmark some of the multi-tap settings & measure the delays I can already make (using the DAW software). Using this for comparison I found a couple of good settings that cover most things. One for such things as Apache, and one for other stuff. The funny part was they were right back at settings I'd done by ear already. So much of this I suspect is also how the player approaches the song, pick attack & where (Hank apparently used alot of upstrokes) & other variables. This would probably be the cat's meow for a live tribute band that didn't already have that capability. I congratulate them sincerely but I'm going back to saving for my Jag. Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. Last edited: May 23, 2015 06:44:29 |
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Joined: Jan 04, 2011 Posts: 1588 Berlin L-Berg
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Posted on May 23 2015 09:18 AM
I am also not buying. Still have that Zoom 508 sitting here, which covers most Shadows styles perfectly. If only I could play like Hank... — |
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Posted on May 27 2015 02:12 AM
There is a review on YouTube —https://www.facebook.com/groups/722422647891279/ Last edited: May 27, 2015 02:13:32 |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin
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Posted on May 27 2015 05:17 AM
Donald77 wrote:
Thanks for posting that. Quite the machine. —Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. |
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Posted on May 29 2015 03:34 PM
This device is obviously not only for the Shadows fan. |
Joined: Aug 30, 2012 Posts: 399 Twangsville
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Posted on May 29 2015 03:41 PM
Wow - looks awesome, but that price is outside my reach. —To Boldly go where no Tiki has gone before... |
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Posted on Jan 15 2016 04:25 AM
So, is there anybody who has one of these..... —https://www.facebook.com/groups/722422647891279/ |
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Joined: Nov 16, 2013 Posts: 4536 Wisconsin
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Posted on Jan 15 2016 06:18 AM
guitarrockingrobin wrote:
Again, not dismissing their efforts but I can get quite a few sounds out of my El Capistan. (Obviously not all available with the tap of a foot.) Part of being able to do that required some research into how the different tape machines operated & their characteristics and how the secondary functions on the El Cap can be adjusted. (e.g., in Scandinavia often what you're trying to emulate is a Binson Echorec which was a disc and not tape at all, or a Roland, which is another animal, etc.) Sometimes I wish my El Cap had 3 favorites I could store though. My opinion only, much of the sound is derived in the playing of the piece. Wes DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices. |
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Joined: Jan 23, 2016 Posts: 1 |
Posted on Jan 23 2016 01:37 PM
Yes, I got one from the first batch - absolutely brilliant and can do much more than simply the Shadows. I can say that David Gilmour bought one and is using it in his latest recordings. All the best, Nick |
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Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Apr 16 2016 01:25 AM
Nickallan wrote:
Nick, sorry I missed your post. Welcome to sg101! Glad you're here. Do you know of a sample of something by Gilmore using the Hall & Collins echo? Oh, and now that you've been using it a while, could you please tell more about the pedal. Thanks! —This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. Last edited: Apr 16, 2016 01:28:45 |
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Joined: Mar 15, 2011 Posts: 8528 Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Apr 16 2016 01:59 PM
Here's Martin Cilia demonstrating the Hall & Collins Signature Echo pedal playing Dawn Patrol. —This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got. |
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