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CaptainSpringfield wrote:

Louie7 wrote:

JFK

Kenny & The Sultans - "Surfin' With Vigor" is the only one I can think of.

I didn't say that it 'only' relates to MOAM? I stated 'mostly'. While all of the bands you mentioned certainly harken back to the 1960's space race era, upon researching for bands to play with on our upcoming tour, bands such as you mentioned were outnumbered 10-1 by MOAM? influenced bands. However, I was also amazed at just how many surf bands there are throughout the East Coast that have no presense here at SG101.

killbabykill34 wrote:

None-the-less, when it comes to modern bands, it is nearly impossible to deny that it mostly relates to the mark Man or Astro-man? made on the genre.

Honestly I don't hear any of their influence in the Space Cossacks, Vibrasonic, The Space Agency, the space-themed Surf Coasters, Huntington Cads, Bomboras and Stereophonic Space Sound Unlimited material, or the space albums the Thunderchiefs and Surfites did.

For as many bands as there are cranking out super-derivative MoAM ripoffs (and there are more than a few), there are just as many that looked or are looking back to the 60's space-themed material for inspiration.

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killbabykill34 wrote:

bands such as you mentioned were outnumbered 10-1 by MOAM? influenced bands.

A 10-1 ratio does not bode well at all.

That was excessively violent and completely unnecessary. I loved it.

Maybe outer space is just a metaphor for inner space?

And riding a wave is truly an otherworldly sensation.

Meh, I like MOAM? a lot. But, they are around still and recording. There really isn't a void to be filled there. It is nice to see bands like Hella Vader, Daikaiju and Hella Vader bringing something really different to the table.

CaptainSpringfield wrote:

killbabykill34 wrote:

bands such as you mentioned were outnumbered 10-1 by MOAM? influenced bands.

A 10-1 ratio does not bode well at all.

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killbabykill34 wrote:

No, MOAM? throws in a select vocal track here and there, but they are about 95% instro.

MOAM? is a weird thing, not a lot of talk about them or their sound on this site, but when I really think about it, the may ultimately have the same influence as Dick Dale or some of the other first wave bands. MoAM? did a lot for instrumental music and surf music these days. I think, ultimately, they tend to transcend the "Surf" tag.

IMHO, it's a matter of timing entirely. Twangy instrumental guitar music started to emerge in the late '50s and as it evolved it became associated with various cultural trends. In the late '50s Westerns were all the rage and the sound of low notes being played on a bright sounding guitar found its way into such movies and TV shows.

Then the SoCal Surf scene emerged and Surf music really amounted to the next step as reverb became drippier and a new generation of amps gave a more focused, clean sound than the tweed era amps.

About that same time the first James Bond movie came out and Spy flicks were the next big thing and twangy guitar sounds became associated with this type of music.

Then came the Spaghetti Westerns and the newer, brighter sound really fit in. The rest, as they say, is history.

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I think you are exactly right. They, along with Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet and a handful of others, really helped to usher in the 3rd wave back in the 90's. I also agree that they trascend the title 'surf' for many reasons beyond their willingness and ability to step far outside of the genre. I am just very curious to hear this new album they just recorded. They went in a very different direction on their last few albums but now Starcrunch(key songwriter) is back. I am curious if they will pick up where they left off on 1000X(the last record he recorded where he actually cared).

JakeDobner wrote:

killbabykill34 wrote:

No, MOAM? throws in a select vocal track here and there, but they are about 95% instro.

MOAM? is a weird thing, not a lot of talk about them or their sound on this site, but when I really think about it, the may ultimately have the same influence as Dick Dale or some of the other first wave bands. MoAM? did a lot for instrumental music and surf music these days. I think, ultimately, they tend to transcend the "Surf" tag.

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Let's not forget the Spotniks.

They blazed a trail through the stars for MOAM, Devo, Laika & the Cosmonauts and all those that followed.

Pls they built their own amps.

Jetsons.

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Maybe it wood be good if we paid honor to the instro bands that went before surf music. They laid the groundwork, before the surfwork.

Johnny & the Hurricanes (Beatnik Fly)
The Ventures (Perfidia)
The Fireballs (Torquay)
Duane Eddy (40 Miles of Bad Road)
The Wraymen (Rumble)
The Rockin' Rebels (Wild Weekend)
The Wailers (Road Runner)

I know there's more... but these are the ones who had the big hits.

Last edited: Mar 06, 2012 12:28:17

Then in '66, this guy came along...so there's that. Big Grin

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I've always love The Atlantics for their space age sound. The Shadows also had an instro in "Thunderbirds Are Go" that is out of this world. Space influenced instro has always had an impact on me.

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Louie7 wrote:

Maybe it wood be good if we paid honor to the instro bands that went before surf music. They laid the groundwork, before the surfwork.

Johnny & the Hurricanes (Beatnik Fly)
The Ventures (Perfidia)
The Fireballs (Torquay)
Duane Eddy (40 Miles of Bad Road)
The Wraymen (Rumble)
The Rockin' Rebels (Wild Weekend)
The Wailers (Road Runner)

I know there's more... but these are the ones who had the big hits.

Torquay is a treasure far too often forgotten.

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