cyclopean
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Posted on Feb 26 2012 08:04 PM
so ... the collet (i think that's the part name, the thing you screw the arm into) on my jag trem seems to have come loose. this has happened before, but i've been able to swing it around a few times at a slight angle and it seems to grip whatever it is it's supposed to grip.
what's up and how do i fix it?
it's a mim, if that matters.
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LHR
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The jungle
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 02:55 AM
Unscrew the trem plate from the body next time you change strings. Screw the collet nut back on tight. Use some semi-permanent (blue) Loctite on the part first if you want to make sure this does not happen again.
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Noel
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 05:25 AM
Is this to prevent the collect from unscrewing? I wasn't aware that could happen, but what about the collet just losing it's grip on the tremolo arm?
LHR wrote:
Unscrew the trem plate from the body next time you
change strings. Screw the collet nut back on tight. Use
some semi-permanent (blue) Loctite on the part first if
you want to make sure this does not happen again.
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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SlacktoneDave
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 08:06 AM
cyclopean wrote:
so ... the collet (i think that's the part name, the
thing you screw the arm into) on my jag trem seems to
have come loose. this has happened before, but i've
been able to swing it around a few times at a slight
angle and it seems to grip whatever it is it's
supposed to grip.
what's up and how do i fix it?
it's a mim, if that matters.
The way fix this is:
☀Take the tailpiece off of the guitar.
☀Turn it upside down, and place it in the body cavity. The body will hold the tailpiece securely when you tight the collet.
☀Tighten the collet with a socket wrench, the body cavity will hold it so you can really torque it.
☀Be careful
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Noel
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Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 08:24 AM
Dave, can the Jonny Marr collet and trem arm be refitted to other offsets?
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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SlacktoneDave
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 08:29 AM
Noel wrote:
Dave, can the Jonny Marr collet and trem arm be
refitted to other offsets?
Yes, I'm pretty sure it's a stock tailpeice on the J Marr. also, I think the guy who makes that setup sells them on Ebay.
There will be a change in the design of the stock Jag trem bars soon.... I've been part of this new development.... more on that later.
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cyclopean
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 12:39 PM
the arm screws into it just fine, but it doesn't seem like it's grabbing the spring and it's not making the pitch change.
Noel wrote:
Is this to prevent the collect from unscrewing? I
wasn't aware that could happen, but what about the
collet just losing it's grip on the tremolo arm?
LHR wrote:
Unscrew the trem plate from the body next time you
change strings. Screw the collet nut back on tight.
Use
some semi-permanent (blue) Loctite on the part first
if
you want to make sure this does not happen again.
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cyclopean
Joined: Mar 01, 2011
Posts: 40
innsmouth, ma
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 12:55 PM
anything in particular i should be careful about?
SlacktoneDave wrote:
cyclopean wrote:
so ... the collet (i think that's the part name, the
thing you screw the arm into) on my jag trem seems
to
have come loose. this has happened before, but i've
been able to swing it around a few times at a slight
angle and it seems to grip whatever it is it's
supposed to grip.
what's up and how do i fix it?
it's a mim, if that matters.
The way fix this is:
☀Take the tailpiece off of the guitar.
☀Turn it upside down, and place it in the body cavity.
The body will hold the tailpiece securely when you
tight the collet.
☀Tighten the collet with a socket wrench, the body
cavity will hold it so you can really torque it.
☀Be careful
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DustyRoad
Joined: Apr 10, 2010
Posts: 41
Mobile,Al.
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 01:56 PM
Question? When the trem arm is fully inserted into the trem unit....how close is the bend of the arm to the trem insertion tube?
— Lose the 9s Delbert
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cyclopean
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innsmouth, ma
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 02:05 PM
... the same way it always was?
the problem isn't how the arm screws in, the problem is that the part you screw it into isn't connecting on the other end to what it ought to.
DustyRoad wrote:
Question? When the trem arm is fully inserted into the
trem unit....how close is the bend of the arm to the
trem insertion tube?
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Brian
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 06:36 PM
What kind of Jag is it? Only some of the recent "reinventions" have screw-in arms. The rest pop into the collet and are held in place by friction.
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DustyRoad
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 10:39 PM
I guess my earlier question was about my Jazzmster I thought they had the same kind of whammy set up .Where the rod slides into a "tube" and is held in by a collet. Mine kept falling out until I pushed it in up to the bend in the trem arm. It doesn't free swing and all seems to work well. I hope this is the proper way to install the arm.
— Lose the 9s Delbert
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SlacktoneDave
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Posted on Feb 27 2012 10:50 PM
Brian wrote:
What kind of Jag is it? Only some of the recent
"reinventions" have screw-in arms. The rest pop into
the collet and are held in place by friction.
He must have a Mexico guitar with a screw in bar. If the spring is not being engaged, it needs to be tightened with the screw on top of the tailpeice. Do you have the directions on how to adjust?
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Feb 28 2012 08:47 AM
Oops, I guess he did say "MIM" in his first post.
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SlacktoneDave
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Posted on Feb 28 2012 08:50 AM
I guess I'm still not sure what the problem is/was.
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Noel
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Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on Feb 28 2012 10:58 AM
One of the reasons I replaced the trem block on my Strat with a Callaham was that, as time passed, I had to keep screwing the arm in another turn to keep it from hanging loose with a lot of slop in the tip in, and rattling when I wasn't using it. Plus, I had it screwed in so deep it stuck out the bottom and I was out of threads.
It's possible to push an AVRI trem arm in so far the trem stops working when the arm bottoms out with a thunk. If a MIM Jag trem arm is screwed in too far, will it bottom out the same way and stop the trem from working?
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cyclopean
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innsmouth, ma
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Posted on Mar 12 2012 06:10 PM
the piece that you screw the trem arm into doesn't seem like it's engaging the spring or whatever attaches it to the spring. it's slipped off before, but if you turn it at an angle to the surface of the guitar and spin it a few times, it usually grabs. it hasn't been able to since it came loose. i've tried tightening the screw, but it isn't helping.
i'm thinking about unscrewing the whole assembly and taking a go at it, but i wanted to know if anyone else had done it and had any useful advice before i did it.
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cyclopean
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Posted on Mar 15 2012 01:12 AM
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6V6
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Posted on Mar 15 2012 01:16 AM
are held in place by friction.
At least in theory!
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cyclopean
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Posted on Mar 16 2012 11:22 AM
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