blackheartsfan
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
Posts: 274
|
Posted on Mar 04 2012 02:53 PM
zzero, From my experience it seems in BOTH your Squier Strats the problem is the strings binding in the "nut". Have you installed thicker gauge strings? Nuts are usually overlooked at the factory, as long as stock strings fit in the nut slot it "passes" inspection.
|
ManOfMystery
Joined: Jun 02, 2011
Posts: 33
Fort Wayne
|
Posted on Mar 04 2012 11:33 PM
zzero wrote:
hey, man of mystery!! hi dude!! i had one of the 2 pup amp in case model silvertones mabe by dano. cool little guitar!! very jangly and did fine for surf. remember, this was the early 60's. hollow-bodied and 2 lipstick pups. great tremolo on the amp in the case. wish i still had that rig, that guitar sounded really cool thru my silverface deluxe reverb!!
Aww god I would kill for an old Dano like that! Lucky man. I got a pretty cool Dano bari in bass VI tuning (in my picture) that has a nice tone but I can only dream of the tone on original Danos.
— "Dude it's SOOO drippy!! It's like water is going to start spurting out of your amplifier!"-Nathan Charles Dirig
|
ManOfMystery
Joined: Jun 02, 2011
Posts: 33
Fort Wayne
|
Posted on Mar 04 2012 11:36 PM
Oh and on the Surf Strat. Played one and it was okay and I liked it and all, but shortly after I played it I played a midnight wine telecaster and my heart was stolen and this strat guy was converted..
Baha, sorry guys.
— "Dude it's SOOO drippy!! It's like water is going to start spurting out of your amplifier!"-Nathan Charles Dirig
|
zzero
Joined: Jul 09, 2010
Posts: 1153
Lillian Alabama
|
Posted on Mar 05 2012 09:17 PM
Beachbumscott--have never heard of the "Fruda" method of tuning your whammy bar. i think i'll give it a shot. the pre-stretching idea makes sense.
Man of mystery--i understand about the tele. my main axe is a MIM ash body-butterscotch tele. NICE!!!
— Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!!
|
zzero
Joined: Jul 09, 2010
Posts: 1153
Lillian Alabama
|
Posted on Mar 05 2012 09:28 PM
Blackheartsfan--the string may be binding in the nut on the surf strat' but i haven't changed string gauges. fine-tuning may help that 'cuz i haven't spent a day setting up that guitar. the VM 70's strat--the bar doesn't even screw into the hole on the bridgeplate--several of the guys out here have tried to get the thing in there---the threads don't seem to want to line up right. may just be a poor machine job. will probably lock the trem anyway. gonna try the Fruda method on the surf strat after i fine tune it.
— Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!!
|
JonW
Joined: Mar 07, 2008
Posts: 237
Indiana
|
Posted on Mar 06 2012 04:44 PM
zzero-
Congrats on the Surf Strat. I’m very tempted to get one, too.
I’m far from a competent guitar tech. But for getting things to stay in tune with the trem bar...
First: File the nut slots to widen them a touch and avoid the pinging and binding. I hate it when I hear that ping. I use these files:
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Nuts,_saddles/Special_tools_for:_Nuts_and_saddles/Gauged_Nut_Slotting_Files.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=561
and this instruction/how to:
http://www.frettech.com/nutz/index.html
Second: Lube the nut slots and all string contact points.
I’ll bet that things improve tremendously after that. Good luck.
Last edited: Mar 06, 2012 16:45:30
|
zzero
Joined: Jul 09, 2010
Posts: 1153
Lillian Alabama
|
Posted on Mar 06 2012 08:25 PM
Beachbumscott--dude-i know you from squiertalk!! how you doing??
JonW--thanks for the advice dude!! i've been playing since '61 or '62 and have done my own setup work since probably '65. but you wouldn't know that--but thanks for the pointers!!!!
in general to all--i'm not a huge fan of wang bars. i rarely use the things--just a matter of personal taste. so wang ON!!!!!
— Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!!
|
aqualadius
Joined: Aug 30, 2010
Posts: 414
Charlotte, NC
|
Posted on Mar 13 2012 01:00 PM
So any chance someone can play some surf songs with the Vintage Modified Surf Stratocaster and post it up here? Preferably through a fender tube amp with a reverb tank! Of course! I'm very interested in this guitar as I don't mind doing some extra setup for cheaper guitars, that's most of the fun of getting a new guitar. But to me the fender video's just sound a little plasticy. I really can't tell how it's going to make the surf sound better. Enlighten me.
Jeremy
— Jeremy
|
togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
|
Posted on Apr 08 2012 05:38 AM
Hi guys, a little article about sq surf strat. I'm really waiting for an outsider(I mean: not fender employee or nobodyknows blogger) video/review etc...
and tremolo: does anybody try this: YT VIDEO
— original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show
|
drumuitar
Joined: Feb 28, 2006
Posts: 813
Boise, ID
|
Posted on Apr 08 2012 12:05 PM
|
surferXmatt
Joined: Aug 27, 2008
Posts: 1570
New York
|
Posted on Apr 09 2012 08:19 AM
Played this thing on Saturday and was not very impressed... felt good but sounded anemic.
|
Mauser_6119
Joined: Feb 12, 2012
Posts: 3
Monroe, TN
|
Posted on Apr 10 2012 10:50 AM
|
togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
|
Posted on Apr 10 2012 02:28 PM
Mauser_6119 wrote:
Two vids I found of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49X02W4kUys&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_BQCob2Zxk
yes, i know them, commercial stuff, but - maybe im too sceptic - i dont believe that its the sound of a 300$ guitar
— original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show
|
drumuitar
Joined: Feb 28, 2006
Posts: 813
Boise, ID
|
Posted on Apr 10 2012 11:58 PM
|
squirt50
Joined: Apr 27, 2008
Posts: 82
Chicago.
|
Posted on Apr 11 2012 07:31 AM
drumuitar wrote:
Lipstick pickups are for Danos. They're too underpowered to put in a Strat IMO
I agree. Had a strat that I had modified with a set of Kent Armstrong lipstick tube pickups and I was very disappointed with the tone. Very weak and thin. Great for doing transparent rhythm parts. That was about it.
— I came. I saw. I left.
|
togergo
Joined: Jan 23, 2012
Posts: 282
Budapest
|
Posted on Apr 11 2012 08:32 AM
I have go to a shop and try it myself
— original compositions (low-level demo stuff /out of tune, etc) myStuff not my best, but i don't like to be in a musician community without anything to show
Last edited: Apr 11, 2012 08:40:18
|
zzero
Joined: Jul 09, 2010
Posts: 1153
Lillian Alabama
|
Posted on Apr 22 2012 04:27 PM
as of last week i set up my surf squier. filed the nut, put on new strings (46's) and tuned up the guitar using the Fruda method. result---the guitar stays in tune well and no string binding in the nut. the tremolo is unblocked and seems to work well. very happy with the setup.
now--it is not a $1500 strat and doesn't perform quite as well as one. but for $300 i'm not complaining. 1/5 the cost of one and works almost as well as a real strat? i'm cheap (and not playing in public anymore) and looking for bang for the buck! lots of bang and not much bucks! happy with her!!
the pick-ups are weak. amp volume knob and gain knob are for that. lipstick pups aren't for everyone so that is a personal sound choice the way i see it. kind of a delicate sound to 'em that is for sure. get yourself a strat with strat pups!
also added WD tuiners to it. don't care for the vintage style tuners.
stays in tune, looks good, sounds good, plays good and is cheap!!!
my kind of guitar!!!!
love those dano-silvertones by the way----played much surf on one in the early and mid-60's.
IMHO!
crazy old guy...
— Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!!
Last edited: Apr 22, 2012 16:28:56
|
drumuitar
Joined: Feb 28, 2006
Posts: 813
Boise, ID
|
Posted on Apr 22 2012 06:53 PM
I always have the pickup switch set on middle with my Dano DC59. It's the only way to get any balls out of it.
— Shawn Martin
http://www.drummerman.net
http://www.youtube.com/GKacedrummerman
http://www.facebook.com/drumuitar
|
zzero
Joined: Jul 09, 2010
Posts: 1153
Lillian Alabama
|
Posted on Apr 23 2012 05:24 PM
yep--dano's really aren't much for balls--i used a Lafayete fuzz with mine back in the day!!
— Enjoying the surf,sun and sand!!
|
Camshaft
Joined: Apr 17, 2012
Posts: 30
Cleveland, Ohio
|
Posted on Apr 24 2012 01:38 AM
My girlfriend just bought one of these as her first guitar. It's absolutely gorgeous and it looks to be of much higher quality than my Squier Affinity Strat. From what I can tell, the pickguard, pickups, neck, tuners, and strap buttons are different from my Squier. No word yet on tone; I've only heard it through a solid-state practice amp.
— -Cam
Last edited: Apr 24, 2012 23:39:53
|