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Strymon El Capistan dTape Echo

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topsail Joined: Jun 10, 2009 Posts: 317	Posted on Jan 01 2011 03:32 PM I'll check the Ibanez out, thanks. I do mainly use a delay for slap-back but would also like something a bit more capable and well suited for sci-fi type sounds and such. Yeah the MXR CC was really a disappointment as it came highly rated by more than a couple of folk I know. It definately didn't do a good Sun Studio 50s type slap imo and again it just seemed to color the tone of my amp waaay too much. Last edited: Jan 01, 2011 16:44:18 Top
rotnroby Joined: Mar 31, 2010 Posts: 877 Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805	Posted on Jan 01 2011 04:10 PM topsail I'll check the Ibanez out, thanks. I do mainly use a delay for slap-back but would also like something a bit more capable and well suited for sci-fi type sounds and such. Yeah the MXR CC was really a disappointment as it came highly rated by more than a couple of folk I know. It definatelt didn't do a good Sun studio 50s type slap imo and again it just seemed to color the tone of my amp waaay too much. Well it sounds like your a very desiring individual ... Are you on a tight budget ?? Are you looking for "The Sun studio" Sound? If so, A true Tape echo will do the job trust me! I've try'd lot's of units and the Original Echo-plex is with out doubt the sound however, big and clunky and always needing something>>!!! I had the Fulltone TTE. Great unit and it had the sound however, big and clunky and needing Maintenance ... So I bought a EH deluxe Memory man .. I've really just touched the tip of the iceberg. I play about 3x a month small venues mostly so, with that said I'm just keeping it simple. have the CC for slap and the Stymon for other stuff.. Good luck on your quest for the perfect 50's echo! Top
topsail Joined: Jun 10, 2009 Posts: 317	Posted on Jan 01 2011 04:46 PM Man I'm always on a budget as of late. I may try one of the $30 Dano pedals (for slap-back) unless I can find something better? Maybe the Ibanez will do the trick. Top
rotnroby Joined: Mar 31, 2010 Posts: 877 Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805	Posted on Jan 01 2011 04:57 PM topsail Man I'm always on a budget as of late. I may try one of the $30 Dano pedals (for slap-back) unless I can find something better? Maybe the Ibanez will do the trick. Good luck you really get what you pay for... Just a heads up!! the Dano is not what your looking for it's really noisy and tone sucking!! Not true bypass.. Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Jan 01 2011 06:54 PM topsail Man I'm always on a budget as of late. I may try one of the $30 Dano pedals (for slap-back) unless I can find something better? Maybe the Ibanez will do the trick. The Dano is not a bad sounding pedal for slap-back. I highly doubt it matters if it is true bypass. I've seen several people who use them in their live rig and I've never thought "boy, there sure is a lot of noise and loss of signal". And for $30, can't beat that. I own a $15 Danelectro flange pedal and it doesn't destroy my tone or make a ton of noise. Top
rotnroby Joined: Mar 31, 2010 Posts: 877 Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805	Posted on Jan 01 2011 07:01 PM JakeDobner topsail Man I'm always on a budget as of late. I may try one of the $30 Dano pedals (for slap-back) unless I can find something better? Maybe the Ibanez will do the trick. The Dano is not a bad sounding pedal for slap-back. I highly doubt it matters if it is true bypass. I've seen several people who use them in their live rig and I've never thought "boy, there sure is a lot of noise and loss of signal". And for $30, can't beat that. I own a $15 Danelectro flange pedal and it doesn't destroy my tone or make a ton of noise. For the budget minded.. The Dano works... Mine was very noisy!! True bypass is my preference as I use very few pedals.. Different strokes for different folks... Top
SnorkelMonkey Joined: Nov 11, 2010 Posts: 26	Posted on Jan 01 2011 09:13 PM topsail I'll check the Ibanez out, thanks. I do mainly use a delay for slap-back but would also like something a bit more capable and well suited for sci-fi type sounds and such. Yeah the MXR CC was really a disappointment as it came highly rated by more than a couple of folk I know. It definately didn't do a good Sun Studio 50s type slap imo and again it just seemed to color the tone of my amp waaay too much. The DE-7 can do the Sci-fi stuff like an Echoplex. You're talking about the effects you get when you move the record head back an forth with long repeats right? But... Nothing beats the real thing. I've owned piles of analog/digital delays over the years. A lot of of those si-fi/horror flick sounds of the 60's and 70's were straight out of the Echoplex. I'll tell you this, you can cop most that stuff with a DE-7 but like all of them it just doesn't cop the tape saturation tonez on the runaway repeats. But... you can get a lot of it and for basic slapback and longer Echoplex like delays it's the only thing I'd have on my board for it (to date that is) if I was heading out for a gig without the Plexi's. — Electro Echo Chamber, The Technical Side Of Time Based Effects. Echo, Reverb, Delay, Analog, Digial, And More... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/electroechochamber/ Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Jan 01 2011 09:33 PM Yeah... I still don't think the CC is that bad either, even though it's recently been demoted to my practice amp. To each their own, I guess! — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Jan 01 2011 09:37 PM The Carbon Copy is an analog delay, different from a tape echo nor is it an analog echo that tries to copy tape echo, like the Strymon. Top
SnorkelMonkey Joined: Nov 11, 2010 Posts: 26	Posted on Jan 01 2011 10:35 PM Hey Top Sail, I take a little of that back. I just notice one thing that the DE-7 (and pretty much the rest of them including the EL Cap from the demos I've heard) can't do. When you move the record head on an Echoplex you get this pitch variation that a lot of analog/digital delays can get, but there's this thing that goes on where you move the record head on the short echos back and forth a little and quickly, then move the slider over to long delay. It's hard to describe but that effect I've not heard in any other tape, analog, digital, or DSP based delay ever. It's not the usual delay oscillation effect or the endless repeats/tweaking of the delay time effect btw. That's also one of those "si-fi" effects you're talking about. — Electro Echo Chamber, The Technical Side Of Time Based Effects. Echo, Reverb, Delay, Analog, Digial, And More... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/electroechochamber/ Top
rotnroby Joined: Mar 31, 2010 Posts: 877 Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805	Posted on Jan 02 2011 11:28 AM The DE-7 is also a great value! Street price at $60 bucks, just killer for those budget minded players.. Really nice sounding echo. I would buy one of the DE-7's before i would spend a cent on the Dano! Top
kenposurf Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1650 Santa Rosa, CA	Posted on Jan 02 2011 04:54 PM Mine will be here tomorrow..so we'll see how it goes..It would be nice to have the option to have a few presets w/o adding another pedal. The Magictomp I've been using w/the Charlie Hall patches has three...In reality, two would be good for me..the Hank Marvin thing and a slapback — www.northofmalibu.com Top
rotnroby Joined: Mar 31, 2010 Posts: 877 Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805	Posted on Jan 02 2011 06:16 PM Proton, you will like it for sure.. However, you will need a favorites pedal with the strymon for more presets.. Top
kenposurf Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1650 Santa Rosa, CA	Posted on Jan 02 2011 06:47 PM rotnroby Proton, you will like it for sure.. However, you will need a favorites pedal with the strymon for more presets.. Is there any way to set any presets as is? — www.northofmalibu.com Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Jan 02 2011 09:08 PM kenposurf rotnroby Proton, you will like it for sure.. However, you will need a favorites pedal with the strymon for more presets.. Is there any way to set any presets as is? Nope, they sell a $50 "favorite" pedal for that, which does suck since it only holds one preset. You might find this interesting though: http://www.this1smyne.com/product_list/products/mfe-mini-fixed-expression-pedal-and-amp-switch/ Cheaper and smaller! I'm still trying to find out if you could get several of these working with one El Cap. (Probably not, but I'm still probably getting one of these instead.) — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Jan 02 2011 09:35 PM Hmmm, and another one for $35, officially sanctioned by Strymon: http://www.railheadeffects.com/index.php/effects/details/preset — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
rotnroby Joined: Mar 31, 2010 Posts: 877 Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805	Posted on Jan 02 2011 10:25 PM morphball Hmmm, and another one for $35, officially sanctioned by Strymon: http://www.railheadeffects.com/index.php/effects/details/preset Thanks for doing you home work!!!! Top
kenposurf Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1650 Santa Rosa, CA	Posted on Jan 02 2011 10:43 PM Good info..Thanks! — www.northofmalibu.com Top
SnorkelMonkey Joined: Nov 11, 2010 Posts: 26	Posted on Jan 02 2011 11:42 PM Momentary switch guys. You could wire this up for less than $10. ;) — Electro Echo Chamber, The Technical Side Of Time Based Effects. Echo, Reverb, Delay, Analog, Digial, And More... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/electroechochamber/ Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Jan 03 2011 07:48 AM SnorkelMonkey Momentary switch guys. You could wire this up for less than $10. ;) I guess one could if there's no problem voiding warranties, which I happen to have a history of anyway... there's not a lot of real estate for an extra foot switch though, which I suppose is why they didn't add one in the first place, to keep the footprint smaller. (That, and to sell boatloads of $50 toggles, haha.) Otherwise, one could actually spend more like $20+ on the switch, jack, housing and TRS cable. Anyway, Maury who makes the Railhead Effects Preset switch confirmed my suspicion that multiple toggles just wouldn't work. The El Cap only has room for 1 saved preset, so each switch would simply engage/disengage the same preset. I think I'm grabbing one of these smaller toggles anyway, may as well take full advantage of this great pedal. — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top

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